Everyone Should Go See Inception (Spoilers)
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I had the opportunity to see Christopher Nolan’s new movie ‘Inception’ on opening day this last Friday. I went with some of my best friends and the girlfriend, and we made an evening of it with dinner beforehand, followed by loitering awkwardly in the mall for an hour because our intended showing was sold-out completely.
After lots of waiting, an absurd number of advertisements, and about 30 minutes of trailers, the movie finally started. From that moment we were transported into a dream world that could have only been conceived in the brilliantly intricate and twisted mind of Christopher Nolan.
For full disclosure, I speak as a Nolan fanboy. I own and love all of his previous movies, and it’s not just the Batman fetish that’s sold me on his psychological noir styling. He thinks outside of… More
Mazenzo 09:41 on 08.15.2010 Permalink
If a person in a vegetative state dies, does he go into limbo? This is blatant discrimination against the handicapped.
Calvinball 06:06 on 08.17.2010 Permalink
[quote:1u8cnfbk]6. If everything is a dream, then why did killing oneself take one a layer "up" in the beginning of the movie. Unless there’s something I’ve missed, I don’t think it’s all a dream.[/quote:1u8cnfbk]
I’m not sure what you mean? Killing oneself is a way to escape from the current layer of the dream, except during the heist when they are too heavily sedated for that to work.
Because Mal and Dom dreamed together for 50 dream years, they would have been heavily sedated and under multiple layers. They only killed themselves once with the train, meaning they could have only woken up from one layer. That alone, to me, proves that Cobb is still dreaming at the end, because he never died again on that layer.
Then again, if that’s true, and everyone is trying to get Cobb to wake up, why not just kill him again? And also, for the above scenario, which plays by the rules of the movie, wouldn’t it mean that Mal and Dom would have been too heavily sedated for the train to have woken them up? Wouldn’t they be cast into limbo? Maybe they woke up into limbo?
spartan2 20:28 on 08.17.2010 Permalink
Doesn’t Dom tell Mal that they grew old together in the dream state? I’m not sure if the shots of them walking together all wrinkly are to be taken as factual occurrences or not.
Scribble 06:58 on 08.20.2010 Permalink
[quote="spartan2":c27d8lxx]Doesn’t Dom tell Mal that they grew old together in the dream state? I’m not sure if the shots of them walking together all wrinkly are to be taken as factual occurrences or not.[/quote:c27d8lxx]
Cobb tells Mal that they did, and tells Ellen Page they stayed under for 50 dream years.
spartan2 02:11 on 08.21.2010 Permalink
That would mean that Dom should be old in Inception. He’s not, so that should at least rule out him not waking up from being with Mal.
Calvinball 10:00 on 08.22.2010 Permalink
[quote:3axlbtju]That would mean that Dom should be old in Inception. He’s not, so that should at least rule out him not waking up from being with Mal.[/quote:3axlbtju]
How so? Aging in one layer of a dream doesn’t mean you’ve aged in the above layers.
Shadowflare 07:08 on 08.26.2010 Permalink
[quote="Calvinball":y87ombaz][quote:y87ombaz]6. If everything is a dream, then why did killing oneself take one a layer "up" in the beginning of the movie. Unless there’s something I’ve missed, I don’t think it’s all a dream.[/quote:y87ombaz]
I’m not sure what you mean? Killing oneself is a way to escape from the current layer of the dream, except during the heist when they are too heavily sedated for that to work.
Because Mal and Dom dreamed together for 50 dream years, they would have been heavily sedated and under multiple layers. They only killed themselves once with the train, meaning they could have only woken up from one layer. That alone, to me, proves that Cobb is still dreaming at the end, because he never died again on that layer.
Then again, if that’s true, and everyone is trying to get Cobb to wake up, why not just kill him again? And also, for the above scenario, which plays by the rules of the movie, wouldn’t it mean that Mal and Dom would have been too heavily sedated for the train to have woken them up? Wouldn’t they be cast into limbo? Maybe they woke up into limbo?
Yes. This makes a great deal of sense, since it’s based on the rules outline in the movie. As for why they simply just don’t kill him, if he really is in a coma or some other form of sedation, killing Cobb could send him back into the limbo he originally escape from with Mal.